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starrylizard ([personal profile] starrylizard) wrote2007-06-07 02:24 pm
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Men of Action by [livejournal.com profile] boochicken (Gen, G)

This is hilarious! Poor little team action figures. :P


On another note, I was pleasantly surprised to find this very interesting, well-thought out and presented essay dealing with the latest LJ deletions and the responsibilities of fanfic writers.

If you're at all interested, go have a look. Responsible fanfic

[identity profile] starrylizard.livejournal.com 2007-06-07 06:30 am (UTC)(link)
Oh, I didn't think she was saying that at all. She's very open about not liking that kind of fiction, true (and obciously she's writing with that perspective in mind), but I felt she was simply pointing out that these things should be taken into account when writing. She says several times that she isn't asking people not to write these stories or telling them they are incorrect to write them.

Perhaps you should read it before getting too annoyed, since its a valid perspective. Different people view things differently and she does pose some valid points about how fandom may be viewed by outsiders etc.

Sorry if I've offended you in any way. It's not my intention.

[identity profile] icarusancalion.livejournal.com 2007-06-07 06:49 am (UTC)(link)
You haven't offended me, she has -- well, she's pissed me off.

Her points are carefully worded, but it boils down to:

Disclaimerdisclaimdisclaimerdisclaimer--I'm for free speech, really!

Rape is bad. (Implied: if you write it, you must not know this.)

Incest is bad. (Implied: if you write it, you must not know this.)

Child abuse is bad. (Implied: if you write it, you must not know this.)

Writing these stories will offend outsiders. (Implied: if you write them, you must not know this.)

Therefore, you should be aware that people ([livejournal.com profile] heatherly included) will react badly.

Therefore, you should self-edit, which isn't the same as a lack of free speech (disclaimerdisclaimerdisclaimer!) but rather it's writing responsibly. Yes, that's what it is.

And here I thought the Department of Defense had cornered the market on euphemisms.

Icarus

[identity profile] starrylizard.livejournal.com 2007-06-07 09:31 am (UTC)(link)
See that isn't how I read it.

Heatherly does say that it all depends on the person. Some people who have experienced these kinds of things do write and read them, others don't and find them highly offensive and a lot of the real world find them offensive.

Where you see implied: if you write it, you must not know this.

I see implied: if you write it, she hopes you are aware that others may view it differently and that there are real life issues that are very serious.

So if you're going "well duh!" then you know that, so it's not a problem. I would have thought her main point was just be aware that the people outside of the fandom bubble are likely to view it differently.

I hope you won't mind me contradicting you here, but I just wanted to have my say. You're of course free to continue to disagree.

SL

[identity profile] icarusancalion.livejournal.com 2007-06-07 10:18 am (UTC)(link)
...she hopes you are aware that others may view it differently and that there are real life issues that are very serious.

My answer isn't "well, duh" -- though, yeah, that applies. It's "tough shit."

Do you honestly think that anyone who writes chan doesn't know it's disturbing to some people? Why warn for it if it's a surprise that it bothers some?

Likewise, I'm fully aware that are those who dislike slash, and who would be deeply disturbed that I write it (or that it even exists). I've had long arguments with those types of people on the barrow-downs in the Lord of the Rings fandom.

I have no intention of giving one millimeter to those people, or to [livejournal.com profile] heatherly. She and the anti-slash people (there's no difference) are going to have to suck it up and learn how to read warnings and use the Back button.

Icarus